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There are some problems using honors/AP/IB courses taken as the metric for quality of applicants. The offerings of such courses varies widely across California high schools. (This is also a disparity that poses a greater problem in admissions following the abandonment of the SAT/ACT—a dilemma of the Regents’ ill-advised making.)

Perhaps I missed this somewhere, but is there any data on the GPA of students taking honors/AP/IB classes? It is entirely possible that students engaged in the admissions “arms race” take a heavier load of such classes, but have lower overall grades compared with the smaller number of students taking 10+ honors classes pre-pandemic.

Second, is there any data available on how students/applicants perform on AP exams, and how these exam scores correlate with AP course grades?

Finally, is there any data on broader grade inflation across the schools these students attended? If so, is this taken into account in the UC admissions process? It would also be interesting to see data comparing grade inflation across different geographical areas and socio-economic populations, and comparing public and private schools.

Is there really no publicly available data on the percentage of admissions through the general eligibility criteria and under Eligibility in the Local Context?

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I suggest that answers to many of the questions arising in this article become clear if you consider the hypothesis that the UC is committed (they certainly state this all over their website) to a program of social engineering, of racial diversity over merit. That in itself is a good reason for the UCs to want to avoid gathering, reporting, or using SAT data. It is a "luxury belief" imposed by virtue-signalling regents who rejected the unamimous faculty committee report recommending retaining SAT. Which parallels the solid data in this report https://opportunityinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SAT_ACT_on_Grades.pdf

I suggest that answers to many of the questions arising in this article become clear if you consider the hypothesis that the UC is committed (they certainly state this all over their website) to a program of social engineering, of racial diversity over merit. That in itself is a good reason for the UCs to want to gathering, reporting, or using SAT data. It is a "luxury belief" imposed by virtue-signalling regents who rejected the unamimous faculty committee report recommending retaining SAT. Which parallels the solid data in this report https://opportunityinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SAT_ACT_on_Grades.pdf

Much becomes clear if this article sharpens the definition of "academic storytelling" to: trauma porn to signal your status as an under-represented minority to help the admissions staff practice affirmative action, despite it being proscribed by Prop. 209 and the SFFA ruling alike. See Confessions of an Application Reader https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/education/edlife/lifting-the-veil-on-the-holistic-process-at-the-university-of-california-berkeley.html?unlocked_article_code=1.gE4.abXn.Dl_zX_D9NKsG

The graphs at the end of this article serve as an excellent summary of which colleges are evading the "natural experiment" of the SFFA ruling. https://edreformnow.org/2024/09/09/tracking-the-impact-of-the-sffa-decision-on-college-admissions/ and while it does cover the UC, their racial demographics I believe remain flat despite Prop. 209 and the Supreme Court's SFFA ruling. There are two explanations: either the UC never had any affirmative action, or the UC has practiced it steadfastly all along. I favor the latter explanation, given how secretive the UC is with its data.

This month, two groups filed lawsuits pursuant to the above. Hopefully they will lead to the discovery of more data, and, sunlight being the best disinfectant, remedies requiring the UC's to actually follow the law. You can follow the lawsuits here:

1. from https://sword.education/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69630620/ps-zhong-v-the-regents-of-university-of-ca/

2. from https://sard.law/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69607483/v-the-regents-of-the-university-of-california/

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